Comments on: Grids: Great, but use with care http://leonpaternoster.com/2008/10/grids-great-but-use-with-care/ A blog about editing, managing and building web stuff Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:07:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Simple, complex, ordered, butchered » Positively Deranged http://leonpaternoster.com/2008/10/grids-great-but-use-with-care/#comment-25338 Simple, complex, ordered, butchered » Positively Deranged Sat, 30 May 2009 20:00:22 +0000 http://leonpaternoster.com/2008/10/grids-great-but-use-with-care/#comment-25338 [...] Andy discusses what we should try achieve when we design things, stating that “The trick is to organize without changing important component relationships that serve as informational or communicative lynchpins.” He even notes that a complex solution does not necessarily produce order, citing the use of a strong grid as an example (one of my favourite subjects). [...] [...] Andy discusses what we should try achieve when we design things, stating that “The trick is to organize without changing important component relationships that serve as informational or communicative lynchpins.” He even notes that a complex solution does not necessarily produce order, citing the use of a strong grid as an example (one of my favourite subjects). [...]

]]> By: Gigantic — FT redesign: modern, readable and accessible http://leonpaternoster.com/2008/10/grids-great-but-use-with-care/#comment-2444 Gigantic — FT redesign: modern, readable and accessible Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:25:28 +0000 http://leonpaternoster.com/2008/10/grids-great-but-use-with-care/#comment-2444 [...] nonsense, of course, and the design should be saluted for breaking from the current convention for super-complex grids, content-overload and headers stuffed with 75 [...] [...] nonsense, of course, and the design should be saluted for breaking from the current convention for super-complex grids, content-overload and headers stuffed with 75 [...]

]]> By: Gigantic — Why use grids? http://leonpaternoster.com/2008/10/grids-great-but-use-with-care/#comment-2436 Gigantic — Why use grids? Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:22:45 +0000 http://leonpaternoster.com/2008/10/grids-great-but-use-with-care/#comment-2436 [...] This article was originally published on 24th May 2008.  It was edited on 30th September 2008 as my thinking has changed on this subject.  Read a better post on the subject of grids. [...] [...] This article was originally published on 24th May 2008.  It was edited on 30th September 2008 as my thinking has changed on this subject.  Read a better post on the subject of grids. [...]

]]> By: Leon http://leonpaternoster.com/2008/10/grids-great-but-use-with-care/#comment-1985 Leon Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:19:06 +0000 http://leonpaternoster.com/2008/10/grids-great-but-use-with-care/#comment-1985 Hello Chris, Thanks for the comment. Absolutely. How many stories are on the front page of the print version of The Guardian? 3? There are 40-50 on the front page of <a href="guardian.co.uk" rel="nofollow">the website</a>. And <a href="http://leonpaternoster.com/2008/09/simplifying-the-guardians-header/" rel="nofollow">countless links in the navigation area</a>. That's one reason <a href="http://leonpaternoster.com/2008/11/ft-redesign-modern-readable-and-accessible/" rel="nofollow">I quite like the FT's home page redesign</a>: it trusts readers to <em>browse</em> for info they're interested in. I guess the belief is that readers would rather scan metres of their PC screens for content rather than click through to it. A complex grid supports this approach. Hello Chris,

Thanks for the comment.

Absolutely. How many stories are on the front page of the print version of The Guardian? 3? There are 40-50 on the front page of the website. And countless links in the navigation area. That’s one reason I quite like the FT’s home page redesign: it trusts readers to browse for info they’re interested in.

I guess the belief is that readers would rather scan metres of their PC screens for content rather than click through to it. A complex grid supports this approach.

]]> By: Chris Johnson http://leonpaternoster.com/2008/10/grids-great-but-use-with-care/#comment-1970 Chris Johnson Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:05:54 +0000 http://leonpaternoster.com/2008/10/grids-great-but-use-with-care/#comment-1970 You make some insightful points here. I think that lately I've fallen prey to the seductive nature of complicated grid systems. They're just so damn easy now with CSS frameworks. On a side note, isn't it funny that newspaper website frontpages are often vastly more complicated than their print brethren? You make some insightful points here. I think that lately I’ve fallen prey to the seductive nature of complicated grid systems. They’re just so damn easy now with CSS frameworks.

On a side note, isn’t it funny that newspaper website frontpages are often vastly more complicated than their print brethren?

]]> By: Leon Paternoster — FT redesign is a triumph http://leonpaternoster.com/2008/10/grids-great-but-use-with-care/#comment-1579 Leon Paternoster — FT redesign is a triumph Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:32:18 +0000 http://leonpaternoster.com/2008/10/grids-great-but-use-with-care/#comment-1579 [...] nonsense, of course, and the design should be saluted for breaking from the current convention for super-complex grids, content-overload and headers stuffed with 75 [...] [...] nonsense, of course, and the design should be saluted for breaking from the current convention for super-complex grids, content-overload and headers stuffed with 75 [...]

]]> By: Leon Paternoster — Why use grids? http://leonpaternoster.com/2008/10/grids-great-but-use-with-care/#comment-663 Leon Paternoster — Why use grids? Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:06:09 +0000 http://leonpaternoster.com/2008/10/grids-great-but-use-with-care/#comment-663 [...] This article was originally published on 24th May 2008.  It was edited on 30th September 2008 as my thinking has changed on this subject.  Read a better post on the subject of grids. [...] [...] This article was originally published on 24th May 2008.  It was edited on 30th September 2008 as my thinking has changed on this subject.  Read a better post on the subject of grids. [...]

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