Comments on: What is semantic HTML? http://leonpaternoster.com/2009/05/what-is-semantic-html/ A blog about editing, managing and building web stuff Sat, 12 May 2012 15:35:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Leon http://leonpaternoster.com/2009/05/what-is-semantic-html/#comment-25578 Leon Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:18:30 +0000 http://leonpaternoster.com/?p=650#comment-25578 Glad you liked it, Amy. Please post the link to your blog here. Glad you liked it, Amy. Please post the link to your blog here.

]]> By: Amy Varga http://leonpaternoster.com/2009/05/what-is-semantic-html/#comment-25573 Amy Varga Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:59:02 +0000 http://leonpaternoster.com/?p=650#comment-25573 I am writing a blog about object oriented CSS and the issues you raise here are most pertinent. Very well written, thank you! I am writing a blog about object oriented CSS and the issues you raise here are most pertinent. Very well written, thank you!

]]> By: Cristian Nistor http://leonpaternoster.com/2009/05/what-is-semantic-html/#comment-25471 Cristian Nistor Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:05:40 +0000 http://leonpaternoster.com/?p=650#comment-25471 Yes, you remember well :). It's about the way a designer learn how to code in HTML and CSS, and of course is about the culture in which he was raised. I saw that France Telecom on their french version website rely on code defined by a mix of English and french words for classes and ids :) . And I am sure that on the Internet are a lot of other examples of web pages constructed using non-English words for classes and ids. I choose to develop HTML pages using only English words. But everyone is free to choose what suits best for him/her and what is more comfortable. After all, no strictness is defined about class names. Cristian Yes, you remember well :).

It’s about the way a designer learn how to code in HTML and CSS, and of course is about the culture in which he was raised. I saw that France Telecom on their french version website rely on code defined by a mix of English and french words for classes and ids :) . And I am sure that on the Internet are a lot of other examples of web pages constructed using non-English words for classes and ids.
I choose to develop HTML pages using only English words. But everyone is free to choose what suits best for him/her and what is more comfortable. After all, no strictness is defined about class names.

Cristian

]]> By: Leon http://leonpaternoster.com/2009/05/what-is-semantic-html/#comment-25443 Leon Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:59:38 +0000 http://leonpaternoster.com/?p=650#comment-25443 That's an interesting point you raise. If the author or reader doesn't understand the class or ID names a document uses then they lack meaning. So do we have a Romanian hAtom standard, along with Swahili, Czech, Finnish etc. etc?, or do we just assume that web designers (and anyone using the internet) simply picks up some form of English. I guess that's how English spreads, just like it did through popular music and film etc. (In fact, I seem to remember you quoting <em>The Terminator</em> when you commented here last time). As for the “simple and readable” style — that's about all I'm capable of ;) Thanks for your comment, Leon That’s an interesting point you raise. If the author or reader doesn’t understand the class or ID names a document uses then they lack meaning. So do we have a Romanian hAtom standard, along with Swahili, Czech, Finnish etc. etc?, or do we just assume that web designers (and anyone using the internet) simply picks up some form of English. I guess that’s how English spreads, just like it did through popular music and film etc. (In fact, I seem to remember you quoting The Terminator when you commented here last time).

As for the “simple and readable” style — that’s about all I’m capable of ;)

Thanks for your comment,

Leon

]]> By: Cristian Nistor http://leonpaternoster.com/2009/05/what-is-semantic-html/#comment-25433 Cristian Nistor Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:02:06 +0000 http://leonpaternoster.com/?p=650#comment-25433 Hello again Leon. I'm back after quite a long time, but I gladly see that you kept the simple and readable presentation of your website. Giving meaningful names for "class"-es and "id"-s will help the designer to have a coherent structure of his HTML code and to make easy further modifications. My opinion is that from a "semantically correct names" point of view it does not bring any other benefits. Another aspect is that we have less CSS code in some circumstances. After all is more desirable to create a class "left" which defines that the elements will float to the left, than to add "float:left" to the CSS set of rules for each element which we want to behave like this. This applies only for English language, after all the standard was created using English terms. One questions is, it is better for a non-English native to use only English class or ids names when HTML pages are created? So, pragmatism is what I want. Hello again Leon.

I’m back after quite a long time, but I gladly see that you kept the simple and readable presentation of your website.

Giving meaningful names for “class”-es and “id”-s will help the designer to have a coherent structure of his HTML code and to make easy further modifications. My opinion is that from a “semantically correct names” point of view it does not bring any other benefits. Another aspect is that we have less CSS code in some circumstances. After all is more desirable to create a class “left” which defines that the elements will float to the left, than to add “float:left” to the CSS set of rules for each element which we want to behave like this.

This applies only for English language, after all the standard was created using English terms. One questions is, it is better for a non-English native to use only English class or ids names when HTML pages are created?

So, pragmatism is what I want.

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