Comments on: Times in sensible nav menu shocker http://leonpaternoster.com/2010/05/times-in-sensible-nav-menu-shocker/ A blog about editing, managing and building web stuff Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:07:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: john baker http://leonpaternoster.com/2010/05/times-in-sensible-nav-menu-shocker/#comment-33567 john baker Tue, 25 May 2010 15:43:27 +0000 http://leonpaternoster.com/?p=1151#comment-33567 I can't think what that paper would be, Leon. But, OK, in principle I know nothing comes free. So, all in all I'd rather pay up front than be milked while my attention was diverted elsewhere. I don't think I ever clicked on an advert, unless it was by mistake. But advertisers get at me easily enough these days. They line the streets while I drive through; they lie in wait throughout my leisure activities; and in the evening they're in my sitting room, mouthing off every fifteen minutes. I can’t think what that paper would be, Leon. But, OK, in principle I know nothing comes free. So, all in all I’d rather pay up front than be milked while my attention was diverted elsewhere.
I don’t think I ever clicked on an advert, unless it was by mistake. But advertisers get at me easily enough these days. They line the streets while I drive through; they lie in wait throughout my leisure activities; and in the evening they’re in my sitting room, mouthing off every fifteen minutes.

]]> By: Leon http://leonpaternoster.com/2010/05/times-in-sensible-nav-menu-shocker/#comment-33565 Leon Tue, 25 May 2010 14:48:57 +0000 http://leonpaternoster.com/?p=1151#comment-33565 No, I wouldn't either. But what if it was a paper you were more inclined to read? The info itself might be available, but not the “quality” editorial. No, I wouldn’t either. But what if it was a paper you were more inclined to read? The info itself might be available, but not the “quality” editorial.

]]> By: john baker http://leonpaternoster.com/2010/05/times-in-sensible-nav-menu-shocker/#comment-33562 john baker Tue, 25 May 2010 12:20:00 +0000 http://leonpaternoster.com/?p=1151#comment-33562 No, I won't pay. All of this info is available for free elsewhere. Also I've been trained to come out in hives when I hear or see the words: Murdoch, or News Corporation. But I like the look. Must be one of the best looking news sites around. No, I won’t pay. All of this info is available for free elsewhere. Also I’ve been trained to come out in hives when I hear or see the words: Murdoch, or News Corporation.
But I like the look. Must be one of the best looking news sites around.

]]> By: Leon http://leonpaternoster.com/2010/05/times-in-sensible-nav-menu-shocker/#comment-33550 Leon Mon, 24 May 2010 19:39:44 +0000 http://leonpaternoster.com/?p=1151#comment-33550 There's money to be made in providing a relatively pleasant ad experience (as you'll find in print newspapers); it can't be beyond mankind's powers to create an online ad that doesn't make you want to install an adblocker, can it? I buy a print newspaper but don't feel the same attachment to the online version, probably because it's pretty difficult flicking through it. I might read one article from The Guardian, another from The Times and even the odd one from The Telegraph. I'd never buy the print Telegraph, though. If you need access to full versions of online newspapers for your job then you'll pay for a subscription. Beyond that I reckon you'd just go without. Joint subscriptions to several online publications might be interesting, though. There’s money to be made in providing a relatively pleasant ad experience (as you’ll find in print newspapers); it can’t be beyond mankind’s powers to create an online ad that doesn’t make you want to install an adblocker, can it?

I buy a print newspaper but don’t feel the same attachment to the online version, probably because it’s pretty difficult flicking through it. I might read one article from The Guardian, another from The Times and even the odd one from The Telegraph. I’d never buy the print Telegraph, though.

If you need access to full versions of online newspapers for your job then you’ll pay for a subscription. Beyond that I reckon you’d just go without. Joint subscriptions to several online publications might be interesting, though.

]]> By: Jamie, Baymard Institute http://leonpaternoster.com/2010/05/times-in-sensible-nav-menu-shocker/#comment-33546 Jamie, Baymard Institute Mon, 24 May 2010 16:31:11 +0000 http://leonpaternoster.com/?p=1151#comment-33546 I think the "lack" of ads also play a big role in making the site look less busy and more stylish. Most ads make the site look less stylish (they're designed to break the visual consistency of the site), more busy (flash banners – grrr!), and usually crush that "airy" feel too because they are crammed in to every single corner of the page. I'm still baffled by how few news sites offer an ad-free version of their online paper (against a fee of course), as an alternative to the busy, crammed and ugly version that's full of ads. Free news? Sure, just don't complain about the ads distracting you. Regular readers? Enjoy a distraction-free reading experience against this fee of $xx/mo. I think the “lack” of ads also play a big role in making the site look less busy and more stylish. Most ads make the site look less stylish (they’re designed to break the visual consistency of the site), more busy (flash banners – grrr!), and usually crush that “airy” feel too because they are crammed in to every single corner of the page.

I’m still baffled by how few news sites offer an ad-free version of their online paper (against a fee of course), as an alternative to the busy, crammed and ugly version that’s full of ads.

Free news? Sure, just don’t complain about the ads distracting you. Regular readers? Enjoy a distraction-free reading experience against this fee of $xx/mo.

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